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6:00 eastern this sunday evening, i'm poppy harlow joining you live from new york. we begin with very sad breaking news here on cnn. the desperate search for two teenage boys last seen on friday going on a fishing trip off of the coast of florida. right now the u.s. coast guard has confirmed that the boat that was found capsized nearly 70 miles offshore is indeed the boat those two boys were operating. so far there has been no sign of the two 14-year-olds who were on the boat. you are looking at pictures of them right now. joining me on the phone, chief petty officer of the u.s. coast guard, ryan doss. thank you for being with me chief. let me begin with this. this is a small boat this is 19 feet long. the coast guard found it more than 100 miles from where the boys left shore. how did the coast guard find it? i'm wondering if it's offering any clues yet as to what may have happened? >> about 11:00 this morning we had a c-130 crew out of clearwater spotted the boat. we were able to launch a helicopter crew also out of clearwater who went out, lowered a rescue swimmer down and they
were able to take a look at the registration numbers on the boat and verify it was the boat the two boys were believed to be a aboard aboard. right now we have a c-144 airplane out of miami out there searching. we have a helicopter out searching. we've got a small boat crew out of cape canavarel also out there looking for the two boys. coming up with plans right now how we're going to search throughout the night and into tomorrow as well. right now no idea how the boat may have capsized. we know that the seas have been 1 to 3 feet 11 to 13-knot winds. there have been thunderstorms that have rolled through the area. not uncommon this time of year. you know right now just hoping for the best and hoping for a happy ending in reuniting these boys with their families. >> i know people may be looking and saying these are two young boys but their parents are saying they were incredibly incredibly well versed on the water, highly experienced, a lot of experience fishing in the ocean there. people have survived things like this before haven't they?
>> reporter: we have seen people survive. definitely this time of year especially we've seen people survive for multiple days at sea. we're not -- we're still -- plans are right now are to continue searching so these conditions the sea states and the water temperature is definitely a survivable situation. it really comes down to things we don't know at this point. whether or not the two boys were wearing life jackets, if they're able to float on anything that may have been aboard the boat. so holding out hope and exploring all the possibilities at this hour and just continue to search as best we can as diligent as we can throughout the night tonight. >> we are all holding out hope. we wish the best to you and your team here doing this search. thank you very much, ryan doss. to politics now. there is no slowing down donald trump. just a week after the billionaire candidate sparked controversy with his attack on senator john mccain's war
record a brand new nationwide cnn/orc poll shows trump is still leading the pack among republicans seeking the nomination. he's coming on top at 18%. his closest competitor jeb bush has 15%, followed by wisconsin governor scott walker. the numbers represent a 6-point jump for trump in support since the last cnn poll that was in june. trump called into cnn's "state of the union with jake tapper" this morning and talked to jake about the latest numbers and also weighed in on everything from hillary clinton's e-mail scandal to illegal immigration and gun control. >> when you and i spoke three or four months ago, i wasn't even going to be in the contest according to various people. and now i'm leading easily in a lot of the races, because people are sick and tired. so with hillary, i think i'll be hillary easily. i think i'll beat hillary, i don't think these other guys will. >> what exactly are you charging that hillary clinton did that's criminal? you're talking about this
e-mail -- >> i'm talking about the whole e-mail scandal. it's a scandal. she's been protected. it's been amazing to me how she's been protected. even the fact "the times" -- i respect "the times" for going after her like that. but even the fact they changed the story at their request, they were more right the first time. whether it was the first time or the second time what hillary did is criminal. >> i don't think it was a criminal -- >> and i don't know whether or not that takes her out of the race but she shouldn't even be in the race. whether she is or whether it's a guy like sanders, which is hard to believe, but whether she is in the race or not, i guess step by step, i'm not thinking too much about hillary right now, i'm thinking about a man who's in favor of common core a man who's weak on immigration jeb bush and a man like walker who, frankly, his state is having tremendous difficulty. i love wisconsin, it's a great place. but he's putting debt up to the gills, the school system is a disaster because they don't have any money.
i mean you know walker's state, wisconsin, is a catastrophe from an economic and a financial standpoint. i think he's number 36 or 38 overall in terms of the country for economic growth and the jobs -- his jobs projection was way, way off. >> right. >> they have budget deficits. he was going to have a lot of big surplus. you've got a $2.2 billion deficit. so i think walker is in big trouble. >> just as a point of fact i believe that the referral by the inspectors general was a security referral not a criminal referral when it came to hillary clinton, but let's just leave that where it is. i do want to talk about immigration and illegal immigration, an issue that you've talked about a lot. you were at the border the other day. assuming a president trump is able to stop the flow of illegal immigration through building a wall or some parts of a wall what do you think should be done with the estimated 11 million undocumented workers and their
families already here? would youopen-minded about a path to citizenship? is that a nonstarter with you? where are you on that issue? >> fine. first of all, you had it. we have to stop it we have to stop it fast and we can do that. we can do that with combinations of walls and border patrol who are phenomenal people. i met many of them when i was in laredo when i was at the border. and we can stop that -- and fencing. but we can stop it with both construction and with physical -- i mean we can do a great job of that okay. i'm totally convinced. and it won't cost the kind of money -- in fact we'll save money because people that are coming in here that shouldn't be coming in here illegally, it will actually save money by doing it an doing it properly. once that's done, we have a situation that is going to be done immediately. before that's done we're going to get the bad ones out. we have some really bad dudes right here in this country and we're getting them out and we're sending them back to where they came from. and i don't mean mexico i mean
they come from all over. they're not coming just from -- they're coming from all over. we have some real bad ones. they're in our prisons that we're paying for and they're walking the streets of san francisco, what a horrible thing happened to kate. >> right. >> and what a horrible thing to happen to jameel the young man who was going to maybe go to stanford and football player and the apple of his father's eye. well let me tell you something, we've got to get rid of -- the bad ones are going to get out. then from that point on we're going to look very, very traung strongly at what we do and i'm going to formulate a plan that i think people will be happy with. >> but you're not going to rule in or rule out -- >> i'm getting rid of the bad ones fast and i'm going to send them back. we're not going to be putting them in prisons here and pay for them for the next 40 years. we're going to send them back where they come from. >> but there obviously will be -- will remain after you get rid of the bad ones millions and millions of undocumented workers
who are not bad ones and they're women and they're children and they're men who are here who came here for a better life. but you're not going to take a position on whether you'll favor a path to citizenship? >> we're going see what we're going to seechlt. it's a very hard thing, i will say, from a moral standpoint from a physical standpoint you're talking about at least 11 million people. that number has been bandied around for years, 11 million. i've been hearing it for years, it could be much more. but we're going to take the high ground we're going to do what's right. some are going to have to go -- we're just going to see what happens. it's a very very big subject and a very complicated subject. but the wall is going to be built, the security -- we're going to have a great border. people can come into the country legally but not illegally. the people that come in are going to be good people they're going to be great people and i want that. it's very important to me. >> most of the horrific things that take place in this country are pep trade by americans.
i want to ask you about this shooting in lafayette, louisiana. we have another case of someone with well established mental health problems somehow able to legally buy a gun. what do you think needs to be done to stop this? >> well these are sick people. i mean these are very, very sick people. this has nothing to do with guns this has to do with the mentality of these people. and, you know you're always going to have -- first of all, i'm a big second amendment person. i believe in it so strongly you need protection. you need protection against the bad ones that have the guns. >> but do you think the second amendment? >> you take them away from the good people and the bad ones will have target practice. like for instance the gun-free zone with the marines, that was disgraceful. these are decorated people. these are people who know how to use guns better than anybody and they're not allowed to carry guns and this guy shot them. they were like sitting ducks the way that happened. it was a disgrace. and if they would have had their guns they probably would all be alive or most of them would be alive right now. >> well i think a lot of people --
>> we have to protect our second amendment. and we can't let -- we can't take little jumps, little jumps, little jumps here. they keep talking about these little -- take these little chunks out. and you have to be very careful about that. we had prisoners escape up in upstate new york which you covered very well for a long period of time. and the people up in upstate that didn't believe in guns all of a sudden they all had guns sitting on their table because they were really afraid that these guys would break into their house. they feel much better having the guns. so you need to protect the second amendment at all costs. still ahead, donald trump says to cnn, as you just heard, that he can easily beat hillary clinton, but does the polling back him up on that? our political minds weigh in next. a new season brings a new look. a chance to try something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪
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we're talking this hour about donald trump's rise rapid rise in the republican party. the new cnn/orc poll that shows him solidifying his lead in the race right now. let's talk about it with margaret hoover a cnn political analyst, republican consultant and host of the sirius xm radio show "get it right with margaret hoover" and john avlon, editor in chief of "the daily beast." i'm so happy you're here. looking at these numbers, trump at 18%, bush at 15%, scott walker at 10%, in a head-to-head matchup against registered voters trump trails hillary clinton 56% to 40%, but take a listen to what he said to jake tapper this morning. >> with hillary, i think i'll be hillary easily. i think i'll beat hillary. i don't think these other guys
will. >> margaret so he says he can. he sounds very confident. the polls don't show it. can he beat hillary clinton? >> can he get to the republican nom -- can he get through iowa, new hampshire and south carolina whereby the way he's not leading in any of those primary states. look these national polls are very deceiving because we don't have a national republican primary. we have regional primaries, state primaries, and donald trump is not leading in any one of those. in iowa, scott walker is leading. in new hampshire, jeb bush is leading. in south carolina it's a tie between three candidates. this is totally overstated. frankly, so early in the game a measure of celebrity and name i.d. that's why jeb bush is second and scott walker trails as a distant third. >> within the margin of error, jeb bush is. last hour it was said donald trump will not be in the discussion in 90 days. >> donald trump is surfing off a
wave of conservative populism and i think the reality check the republican party needs to deal with is that you reap what you sochltw. they have been sowing these seeds that rewards select and brashness, that place the lowest common denominator and is rewarded and now a lot of those folks are terrified that he's turning on its creator and they are backing a guy who's basically a reality show star basically a self-marketer and self-promoter and doesn't live in a fact-based political world and he's being rewarded for it for the time being. >> can i just remind you about 2012 though. in 2012 we had a huge number of candidates none of them nearly as qualified as this field. and we had people like herman cain leading the primary field for a time. michele bachmann leading the primary field. >> that's exactly right. >> ask where any of them are now. >> but aren't we in different times now?
this is a time when bernie sanders is a very big competitor. aren't we in a bit of a different time now? >> i think the commonality there is that you're dealing with a populism in both parties that's expressed in different ways. you have sort of the birth of a left wing tea party which is backing bernie sanders, but i think they're fundamentally different phenomena except for the fact their supporters might feel good about them they don't have a great deal of winning. >> there's nothing fundamentally different about the republican gop electorate in 2012 as 2016. they're going to like trump at first but when they get to know him, look people care about who's going to be president. what are the substantive policy positions they are putting forward. >> one thing people aren't talking about a lot is donald trump flip-flopping. this was 2011 an interview he did with bill o'reilly and he was asked about illegal immigrants. he said it's hard to generalize but you're going to have to look at the individual people see how they have done see how productive they have been see what their references are and then make a decision. you have some great, productive
people that came in. do voters care that's what he said four years ago, listen to what he's saying now? >> i don't think you're dealing with rational appeals in the case of donald trump. but the fact that he sounds almost reasonable i think speaks to something pretty profound and it began in 2012. all of a sudden the calculus for when you're running for president in the republican primary, it used to be that you would try to sound responsible because you're asking people to trust you with the oval office and your finger on the button et cetera et cetera. but all of a sudden given the tide of populist conservatism it became a political asset to sound irresponsible. you reap what you sow and that's what's happening with donald trump. we saw the beginnings of it in 2012 that made the base flame up with a ton of red meat and now you have this with donald trump. that is the phenomena. if he sounded that reasonable he wouldn't be getting the inflamed irrational support he's getting now. >> and is he impacting his other opponents given what mike huckabee said today. i want you to stay with me.
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mike huckabee trying to -- well a lot of people are talking he's turning heads with comments that he made today on breitbart news. actually they were made saturday my apologize, on that saturday radio program. it is about the international deal to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. in huckabee's own words, quote, this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. it is so naive that he would trust the iranians. by doing so he will take the israelis and march them to the door of the oven. let's talk about it. back with me margaret hoover and john avalon. margaret, to you first. >> in a "wall street journal" op-ed a guest commentator said 1930s europe analogies are as overused as they are rarely applicable. i think you have to be really really careful when you use analogies. netanyahu doesn't even use analogies of the holocaust when he talks about how bad he believes this iran deal to be. it minimizes both the holocaust and the seriousness of the
policy issue in front of us. >> we were talking about sort of going for the red meat and throwing out jabs and barbs. we'll get to it in a minute but even the head sort of strategist for the gop talked about let's stop name calling today. is huckabee being pushed to make comments that are so controversial that we've seen do quite well in polling? >> yeah i think there are a couple of things going on here. first of all, candidates are watching a candidate like donald trump saying manifestly irresponsible things loudly and getting rewarded by a media attention and bump in the polls. maybe i can drink some of that kool-aid too and get some benefit from it. the second factor is there is a dynamic inside the current republican primary that rewards irresponsible behavior. instead of trying to act more responsible, you get a primary bump if you get irresponsible. the final thing that i think is important is this. shawn spicer and those folks
talking about reagan's 11th command meant, don't talk ill of another republican. what upsets trump is they're calling names of other republicans. when you use godwin's law says when you compare your opponent to adolf hitler you automatically lost the debate. what should offending people is when a guy running for president who's likeable and relatable much of the time compares the president of the united states saying he's marching the state of israel to an oven that should be called out too, not just when it's a fellow republican. >> margaret i want your reaction from shawn spicer on "reliable sources" this morning. >> i understand it's going to be the nature of any primary for folks to discuss the differences between themselves on policy issues and i think that's fine. the name-calling however, needs to stop. we've got to remember what ronald reagan taught us his 11th commandment, thou shall shot speak ill of another republican. >> margaret. >> he's absolutely right. frankly the problem is john is not a republican he's pretending this is far more
ominous and detrimental to the republican party in the long term than it is. this is short-term problematic. this is a car wreck. we're all rubber-necking to see how it ends. it's going to end. donald trump is not going to win the republican nomination. it's absurd that we give him as much oxygen as we do. >> he's leading in the polls right now. >> a national poll which has absolutely no bearing on what happens in iowa new hampshire, south carolina the southern state primaries or nevada. you -- you like to hear this -- >> no, i don't. a flame thrower has yet to win a republican nomination. it simply does not happen. i don't -- look mike huckabee sometimes says sort of flame-throwing things and sometimes he's quite reasonable and nuanced in his speech. i agree with john this should be called out. you should draw a line and frankly you don't see jeb bush or scott walker or marco rubio or lindsey graham or any of the
really thoughtful qualified and, and, really leaders in the gop saying anything like this. this is not -- he is not shifting the center of gravity in terms of this rhetoric. >> so let's talk about something else that happened. it's a little inside baseball but it's very important. it's about what ted cruz did on the floor of the senate at the end of this week on friday. he called mitch mcconnell a liar. very senior senator, utah's orrin hatch came out today and condemned that. he said you broke senate rules, you broke senate rule 19 et cetera. what is the bigger picture, republican to republican this infighting what happened on the floor there. how big of a deal is that margaret? >> ted cruz invokes ronald reagan more than anybody else. he should be listening to the 11th commandment. ted cruz we have known since he's gotten to the senate has been running for president. ted cruz has been doing things that garner attention that have detrimental effects to the republican party largely and frankly bad policy effects. the government shutdown was a terrible idea. it looks back in hindsight too.
he stands by it because he has to. look i don't think that ted cruz is the emblem. i mean you have a field of candidates 16 of which -- 12 of which are 'ememinently qualified and really responsible. >> no not quite that number. but ted cruz -- the point is that he's fund-raising off that stuff. he's saying he's got the integrity to call the senate majority leader a lawyer and that's -- a liar. the folks fighting to get in this debate some of the most responsible people this cycle who have 'em negligent government experience not just one term in the senate lindsey graham three terms, governor pataki three terms, can't even make the debate. >> let's remember who was the first to call out donald trump was george pataki. guys, thank you very much. always good to have you. coming up next part of donald trump's appeal for some is his tough-talking stance on immigration. it has got some of the gop base fired up and the poll numbers are showing it.
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we're following this breaking news here on cnn. a florida community is in shock and in anguish really waiting, waiting for answers, waiting for news about two teenage boys missing since friday. a few hours ago the coast guard found the boys' boat where it was -- where they were last seen. perry cohen and austin stefanos left friday on a fishing trip. since then there has been no contact with them. today the coast guard found their boat capsized and drifting more than 100 miles from where they started that journey friday afternoon. so far no sign of the boys. what's going on right now in
jupiter is the community members of gathering to support one another. there's a vigil, a prayer service going on. the coast guard telling us that the search for the two boys will continue through the night. we wish them all of the best. a new cnn/orc poll shows that most republican voters want to see one particular candidate from their party on the debate stage more than any other, that candidate is donald trump. part of the appeal that he has to some voters is his take no prisoner stance on immigration. some analysts are asking if that hard line unmoving attitude can help him win the nomination. democratic congressman adam schiff from california is with me. thank you for being here, sir. a number of things i want to get here, but first with immigration, two high-profile cases in your state. in one, an illegal immigrant killing a woman in san francisco just a few weeks ago after he had already been deported several times. in another more recent case an illegal immigrant sexually assaulting a 14-year-old, again after he was in custody, then
released but never deported. what needs to change so that things like this don't keep happening? >> that's a good question. i think these two cases illustrate that a simple solution is really not in the cards. in the one case involving the sexual assault, this was somebody that was granted bail and i think probably the predominant issue there is should he have been granted bail at all, should the bail have been much higher. that's a very different question than that involved in the second case where you had somebody who was repeatedly deported who was sent to san francisco after serving one sentence to be charged with another crime, ultimately not charged with that old drug case. there were a lot of questions about why he was sent to san francisco as opposed to being deported. so two very different issues. i think they do call up the fact because they are such different circumstances and part of a larger immigration debate we need a comprehensive solution to this problem. part of it deals with the criminal justice system part of
it deals with the immigration system. but i think we ought to resist simplified calls that you hear from some of the presidential candidates that aren't going to solve the problem. >> donald trump was asked by jake tapper this morning about the 11 million plus illegal immigrants in this country. now, what do you do with them even if you stop more from coming in. he said look it's hard and he didn't have a solution to that now. he said you've got to stop them from coming in. but those words that he's using are resonating with voters, as seen in the polls. >> well they do resonate with a small group. now, it's a sizeable group and a divided republican presidential primary. but very, thatyes, that vein has always been out there. i don't think it's reflective of a majority of americans who want a comprehensive solution to immigration. i do think that even donald trump understands that the millions of people that are here illegally are not going to be deported that's simply not practical, feasible or even desirable. so we have to find a pathway to citizenship that requires them to learn english, to pay back
taxes, to abide by all of our laws. i think we all understand that's where we're headed. but unfortunately we've had a senate bill that passed with strong bipartisan support, languished now for a couple of years and until the speaker decides he's willing to take on the tea party part of his own caucus that issue is going to continue to languish. >> i want to talk to you about guantanamo bay. it's something you and i have talked a lot about, but this sort of got lost in all the other headlines this week. the fact that two former detainees at guantanamo bay late this week arrested by belgium police in a counterterrorism operation targeting a recruiting network for al qaeda in syria. these were two being monitored by belgian officials, sort of the rules that were set up when they were released. what's your take on this? how concerned are you about that? >> i'm always concerned about what happens with the detainees and former detainees because a certain percentage of them do return to the fight. at the same time keeping guantanamo open has served as a magnet for recruiting new
jihadis and it's been a real black eye for the united states. i think the president is ultimately right about this we need to shut this down. i think senator mccain is right this we need to shut it down and figure out an orderly way to do that. for the first time i have some optimism because you have senator mccain really stepping forward and expressing a willingness to work with the administration. the administration putting forward a plan it should release within i hope the next few days outlining a way that we can close in a safe and responsible way. yes, i'm always concerned about what happens with these former detainees. >> i want to talk about iran. earlier this week with my colleague wolf blitzer here on cnn you talked about the iran deal and you did note that it will mean an improvement in iran's economy, more money for iran that could give a lot of strength to terror groups like hezbollah. let's roll that. >> absolutely they'll have greater resources. now, it may not be in excess of $100 billion, the real number may be closer to $56 billion
when you consider funds that are already obligated. but nonetheless a big infusion of money. certainly some of that they'll have to plow into their economy. that's what they have been making the case for in iran. iran has been very cost effective in their support of hezbollah. they have been able to stretch a few dollars a long way. now they'll have a lot moyerre dollars. >> how concerned are you that this resulting deal is going to be more funds for iran to potentially support hezbollah? >> well i'm very concerned about it. the two things about the agreement that i think are worth a lot of thought and do frankly raise troubling questions. one is the length of the agreement. i would like to have seen this agreement go on far longer. the other is what iran is going to do with all these resources. at the same time poppy, the most difficult question of all cuts the other direction, and that is what's the alternative to this deal. i have yet to hear a very good answer to this question.
so while there are problems raised we're going to have to find if this agreement goes through a way to contain and confront iran through its support of hezbollah and hamas through whatever greater resources it has to plow into supporting the regime of bashar al assad or the houthi rebels. so those are going to be real problems to be confronted if this goes through. one point i would emphasize, and that is with or without this agreement, this is something we need to do. and i think we need to work more closely with israel with our gulf allies to make sure that our partners in the region are spending their defense dollars in the most cost effective way. because remember the saudis and other gulf nations, they're spending eight to ten times what iran does on defense, but iran is nonetheless using it in a far more cost effective way to make trouble in the region to support terror in the region. we need to make sure those greater resources are more effectively used to contain and confront iran. >> we'll be watching congress
your fellow congressmen and women in the middle of this 60-day review period for the iran deal. kerry making his case on the hill this week. we'll be watching. congressman adam schiff thank you. >> thanks poppy. still ahead, a very in inspiring storey for you. finishing a triathlon is epic but see a blind athlete that did exactly that. e keys is home belong to mark and alissa anderson. they bought the place four months ago on what was arguably the scariest day of their lives. neither has any idea what the future holds for them. but they bought into a 30-year mortgage anyway. that was bold. they must really believe in themselves. buy in. quickenloans/home buy. refi. power.
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all right, this just into us here at cnn. fiat chrysler agreeing to pay a $105 million fine. the automaker will be under rigorous federal oversight. this is for the way that it handled repairing its cars with known defects, including jeeps that were prone to catch on fire. chrysler was criticized for the way it executed 23 vehicle safety recalls, covering more than 11 million different cars and trucks. well imagine swimming nearly a mile in cold water, then biking 25 miles, then you know going for a 6.2 mile run. sound tough, a triathlon? i've never done it. now imagine doing it blind. cnn's dominic doddly and rod grio captured this amazing feat on camera. >> thousands of people line up to jump in the hudson in the new york city triathlon every year
and it's something that they post about and they take instagram pictures about and it's something that they really wear as a medal. and it is a huge accomplishment. but to imagine doing that without even being able to see the water that you're jumping into it kind of heightens the terror factor. >> the main problem when you lose your sight is that you lose self-confidence. and so seeing yourself in a positive light as an athlete, as a champion as a fighter, is essential. i started because when i moved to new york i didn't know anyone and that's pretty much when i started to lose my sight and use a cane. i needed an outlet. a group of friends -- >> achilles is a not for profit which enables people with all types of disabilities to participate in mainstream
athletics, to promote physical health and basically just live a more fulfilling life. >> when i was a child, i could play soccer and whatnot. but i always had trouble reading. it will be our first run together. >> no rush. >> the obstacles that are in their way every morning to train. >> i'm good to go. >> 3, 2 -- >> are amplified. it means getting all those runs in all those swims in all those bikes in in a much more challenging way. >> the swimming part is definitely the most challenging part of the triathlon. you have to imagine that there is a crowd around you. in my case you can't see anything obviously. and my sense that i usually use for localization is my hearing and i can't hear anything i'm in the water. so i'm really confused. that's when trusting my guide is so essential. >> i really want him to just be
confident and relax because he's not that comfortable in the water. >> that's why the guide relationship is so very important because you really need to trust your guide, and the guide needs to actually trust the athlete too. >> if i want to go for a run or to bike i need someone. >> he's very committed to the training and while he's doing it he really loves it. i'm very glad to be part of that. >> this is like a community that supports them believes in them gives them a goal and isn't just like this is something you can do but says this is something you will do and we will bring you there and we will actually help you every step of the way. >> i was accepting of who i was. i didn't see myself as a blind person just yet. so it was a tough transition. achilles changed my life. it became a second family for me. it helped me transition from being sighted to being visually impaired. >> if that doesn't inspire you to run a triathlon, i don't know
what else is going to. also this six cnn viewers who were selected to be part of the 2015 fit nation triathlon team will run right alongside dr. sanjay gupta in the nautical malibu triathlon on september 20th. you can follow their experiences as they have been training. just go to facebook.com/c. facebook.com/cnnfitnation. why? because red lobster's crabfest is back. and i'm diving into so much crab so many ways. like crab lover's dream with luscious snow and king crab legs and rich crab alfredo or this snow crab bake. who knew crab goes with everything? whoever put crab on this salmon, that's who. with flavors like these, i'm almost too excited to eat! hey i said almost. and now that it's back get crackin' while you still can.
it has been a very sad day for us here at cnn. our beloved, beloved show producer from atlanta, joe conley passed away last night. he was an extraordinary man, good to the core. our fredricka whitfield remembers him. >> reporter: joe conley's consistency, dedicated and rock solid preparedness and judgment are hugely responsibility for helping us bring our best every weekend here the newsroom. joe is many things to so many of us. a dear friend, fantastic, cool and calm under pressure rock solid veteran newsman. joe joined cnn nearly 20 years ago after the university of florida's graduate many years in news from gainesville and palm beach, florida to columbia south carolina a teddy bear of a guy with a huge compassionate heart and without hesitation he was the show producer any show
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a man accused of kidnapping and torturing women has eluded cops for years. there's concern he may be out there looking for new victims. now john walsh is on the case in this week's "the hunt." >> i'm saddened angry and very surprised that paul jackson has been able to stay out there 23 years, because he's still doing exactly what he did. leopards don't change their spots, these types of guys. >> the other victims still haven't been identified. >> there are a number of people who believe that some of these other women met with a worse and different fate than andrea and michelle. >> criminalologist casey jordan with us now.
take me in to the mind of someone who attacks prostitutes. these they know of desperate, hooked on drugs, desperate for money to feed that addiction. >> the key word is vulnerability. with streetwalkers, sex workers they are always vulnerable but these women particularly because they needed money to support their drug habits. they admit it and talk candidly about it. three three types, angry, power and sadistic. sadistic is 5% of rapists and that's what this guy paul jackson is. he didn't just kidnap them. he put them in a truck, handcuffed them. took them to a place with bars on the windows, kept them for days an repeatedly raped them holding them in a soundproof closet and making them believe they would be killed. >> it usually happens in sadistic rapists who are serial killers. a lot of people have heard of
henry lee lucas and otis tool, these were they went on a trajectory of stalking raping and killing and holding people in torture chambers. that's why they think the photos they found of other women tortured they could be dead and we don't know. >> it it is tragic. thank you very much. the new episode of the hunt with john walsh tonight at 9:00 ooen r eastern. more episodes straight up next on cnn. get the latest news at cnn.com and our mobile map as well. have a great week. > back in 1981, i had the american dream, the beautiful wife, the house in the suburbs, and a beautiful 6-year-old son. and one day i went to work,